James Painter (Investigation)

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Introduction

As many of you know TRS stands for Threat Response Systems, an enterprise that sells "Reality" Based Self Defense Tapes teaching you "the street deadly". Their talent consists of military and ex-military types, with some ex-cons thrown in. Yes, they were the people who produced Dan Webre's tapes! Anyway since I'm on their mailing list, they recently sent me an e-mail regarding one of their other prison fighters. One James Painter, who did his Federal time for possession of a sawed off shotgun.


We've previously reviewed James' Tape. It's okay, and does not approach the level of suckatude reached by "Deadly Jailhouse Fighting Secrets" but still its nothing to write home about. You can see the TRS advertisement here: [1]


The E-Mails

So on October 11, 2006 I received the following e-mail.

Subject: ... Rock n Roll prison fighting system is out... Date: 10/11/2006 7:56:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: support@trsdirect.com Reply To: To: [my e-mail address omitted] James Painter prays that you never have to face prison time. It's filthy, cramped and full of ugly thugs who want nothing more than to hurt and humilate you.

You see, Painter knows all about it from experience. He's recently been released after serving 37 months in Federal Prison (for foolishly keeping a sawed-off shotgun in his home). Once behind bars he quickly discovered that his black belts were absolutely worthless inside those cramped prison walls. This shocked and dismayed him — and because he was “targeted” early by some lifers (who had nothing to lose by killing him), he had just one choice: Find a way to fight that worked in tight spaces, against multiple attackers.

To find out everything about it right now... fast... click here.

Thankfully James hooked up with "Skip" -- an inmate who knew a secret fighting system that WORKED like crazy. He begged Skip for months before earning the “right” to learn this amazing "Rock N Roll" fighting system. And it saved his life.

Currently only 5 guys on earth know this radical new "Rock N Roll" system -- and 4 of them are serving life sentences. Now this system can by YOURS from the ONLY man who can deliver it -- James Painter. Learn how to instantly drop ANYONE who picks a fight with you... a split-second moves that will leave him completely wasted on the ground, unable to fight back... moves that will devastate anyone who has surprised you... super-painful, special “soft” targets and tons more. You’ll be the most FEARED person in the room. . . .


So because I wanted to be the most feared person in my [Chat]room, I wrote TRS back with a question on October 12, 2006:

"Hi Bob: Thank you for sending me information on James Painter, I do enjoy viewing your prison fighting tape series. But in your letter you mention that James had recently gotten out of prison. Since I thought he did his time a number of years ago, has he been rearrested and done time again?

Please tell me.

Sam Browning"

The same day (October 12, 2006) Bob Pierce, Mr. TRS wrote back:

"Sam: No James has not, to my knowledge, been arrested again! The promotion is just referring to the one time that this unfortunate situation took place some time ago.

Bob Pierce

TRS Direct "

So I responded on October 12, 2006:

"Hi Bob:

I'm quite glad that James is not in prison again. Its nice to see someone go straight, especially with the high recitivism rates. I hope he's doing well. But why did you say that he had recently gotten out, when thankfully this happened years ago?

Samuel Browning"

  • sound of crickets chirping*

Bob never did reply to this e-mail.

Analysis and Conclusion:

As you can see in the attached copy of James Painter's prison record. [1] James got out of Federal Prison, IN LATE 1993!!!! There is nothing recent about his release at all. So instead of starting out his letter by talking about a seminar James had taught recently, Bob Pierce decided to "pimp" his talent by saying that this person had "recently" got out of the slammer when James has been out for over a decade. You know, I would understand if James wanted to go back in occasionally, to see Skip, to practice ripping someones genitals apart like he shows on his tape, to catch up on the old times, but evidently he hasn't. Bob seems embarrassed to admit that this whole episode didn't happen recently. Now, I don't blame James, he probably didn't get consulted before Pierce or one of his underlings wrote this latest sales letter, but it will just show you what TRS will say to push product, which is anything. Just ask Dan Webre. :)

Notes

[1] I received the following information from the Bureau of Prisons on 9-12-2005

The following public information is provided in response to your request. This is the only information we can release without the individual's written consent.

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BOPGF * PUBLIC INFORMATION * 09-12-2005 PAGE 001 * INMATE DATA * 14:13:43 AS OF 09-12-2005

REGNO..: 26478-048 NAME: PAINTER, JAMES LLOYD

COMP NO: 010 ALL CURR COMPS(Y/N): Y ALL PRIOR COMPS(Y/N): Y

FUNC...: DIS RESP OF: SHE / GOOD CONDUCT TIME RELEASE

PHONE..: 503-843-4442 FAX: 503-843-3408

RACE/SEX...: AMERICAN INDIAN / MALE FBI NUMBER.: 693112KA9 DOB/AGE....: 03-16-1967 / 38 ACTUAL RELEASE METH.: GCT REL

ACTUAL RELEASE DATE.: 11-23-1993


ADMIT/RELEASE HISTORY

FCL ASSIGNMENT DESCRIPTION START DATE/TIME STOP DATE/TIME SHE GCT REL GOOD CONDUCT TIME REL (CCCA) 11-23-1993 0855 CURRENT SHE A-DES DESIGNATED, AT ASSIGNED FACIL 11-16-1991 1329 11-23-1993 0855 2-J RELEASE RELEASED FROM IN-TRANSIT FACL 11-16-1991 1629 11-16-1991 1629 2-J A-ADMIT ADMITTED TO AN IN-TRANSIT FACL 11-05-1991 0906 11-16-1991 1629 CSL ADMIN REL ADMINISTRATIVE RELEASE 11-05-1991 0706 11-05-1991 0706 CSL A-ADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE ADMISSION 11-05-1991 0705 11-05-1991 0706

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BOPGF * PUBLIC INFORMATION * 09-12-2005 PAGE 002 * INMATE DATA * 14:13:43 AS OF 11-23-1993

REGNO..: 26478-048 NAME: PAINTER, JAMES LLOYD

COMP NO: 010 ALL CURR COMPS(Y/N): Y ALL PRIOR COMPS(Y/N): Y

FUNC...: DIS RESP OF: SHE / GOOD CONDUCT TIME RELEASE

PHONE..: 503-843-4442 FAX: 503-843-3408

THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE DATA IS FOR THE INMATE'S PRIOR COMMITMENT.

THE INMATE WAS SCHEDULED FOR RELEASE: 11-23-1993 VIA GCT REL



PRIOR JUDGMENT/WARRANT NO: 010


COURT OF JURISDICTION...........: NEVADA

DOCKET NUMBER...................: CR-N-90-39-HDM

JUDGE...........................: MCKIBBEN

DATE SENTENCED/PROBATION IMPOSED: 10-04-1991

DATE COMMITTED..................: 11-16-1991

HOW COMMITTED...................: US DISTRICT COURT COMMITMENT

PROBATION IMPOSED...............: NO

FELONY ASSESS MISDMNR ASSESS FINES COSTS

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BOPGF * PUBLIC INFORMATION * 09-12-2005 PAGE 003 * INMATE DATA * 14:13:43 AS OF 11-23-1993

REGNO..: 26478-048 NAME: PAINTER, JAMES LLOYD

COMP NO: 010 ALL CURR COMPS(Y/N): Y ALL PRIOR COMPS(Y/N): Y

FUNC...: DIS RESP OF: SHE / GOOD CONDUCT TIME RELEASE

PHONE..: 503-843-4442 FAX: 503-843-3408

NON-COMMITTED.: $50.00 $00.00 $00.00 $00.00

RESTITUTION...: PROPERTY: NO SERVICES: NO AMOUNT: $00.00


PRIOR OBLIGATION NO: 010

OFFENSE CODE....: 132

OFF/CHG: POSS. OF UNREGISTERED SAWED-OFF SHOTGUN

26 USC 5841, 5861(D) AND 5871

SENTENCE PROCEDURE.............: 3559 SRA SENTENCE

SENTENCE IMPOSED/TIME TO SERVE.: 37 MONTHS

TERM OF SUPERVISION............: 3 YEARS

DATE OF OFFENSE................: 07-27-1990

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BOPGF * PUBLIC INFORMATION * 09-12-2005 PAGE 004 * INMATE DATA * 14:13:43 AS OF 11-23-1993

REGNO..: 26478-048 NAME: PAINTER, JAMES LLOYD

COMP NO: 010 ALL CURR COMPS(Y/N): Y ALL PRIOR COMPS(Y/N): Y

FUNC...: DIS RESP OF: SHE / GOOD CONDUCT TIME RELEASE

PHONE..: 503-843-4442 FAX: 503-843-3408



PRIOR COMPUTATION NO: 010

COMPUTATION 010 WAS LAST UPDATED ON 11-22-1993 AT SHE AUTOMATICALLY

THE FOLLOWING JUDGMENTS, WARRANTS AND OBLIGATIONS ARE INCLUDED IN

PRIOR COMPUTATION 010: 010 010

DATE COMPUTATION BEGAN..........: 10-04-1991

TOTAL TERM IN EFFECT............: 37 MONTHS

TOTAL TERM IN EFFECT CONVERTED..: 3 YEARS 1 MONTHS

EARLIEST DATE OF OFFENSE........: 07-27-1990

JAIL CREDIT.....................: FROM DATE THRU DATE

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BOPGF * PUBLIC INFORMATION * 09-12-2005 PAGE 005 * INMATE DATA * 14:13:43 AS OF 11-23-1993

REGNO..: 26478-048 NAME: PAINTER, JAMES LLOYD

COMP NO: 010 ALL CURR COMPS(Y/N): Y ALL PRIOR COMPS(Y/N): Y

FUNC...: DIS RESP OF: SHE / GOOD CONDUCT TIME RELEASE

PHONE..: 503-843-4442 FAX: 503-843-3408

02-05-1991 02-28-1991

03-21-1991 10-03-1991

TOTAL PRIOR CREDIT TIME.........: 221

TOTAL INOPERATIVE TIME..........: 0

TOTAL GCT EARNED AND PROJECTED..: 124

TOTAL GCT EARNED................: 124

STATUTORY RELEASE DATE PROJECTED: 11-23-1993

SIX MONTH /10% DATE.............: 08-16-1993

EXPIRATION FULL TERM DATE.......: 03-27-1994

ACTUAL SATISFACTION DATE........: 11-23-1993

ACTUAL SATISFACTION METHOD......: GCT REL

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BOPGF * PUBLIC INFORMATION * 09-12-2005 PAGE 006 OF 006 * INMATE DATA * 14:13:43 AS OF 11-23-1993

REGNO..: 26478-048 NAME: PAINTER, JAMES LLOYD

COMP NO: 010 ALL CURR COMPS(Y/N): Y ALL PRIOR COMPS(Y/N): Y

FUNC...: DIS RESP OF: SHE / GOOD CONDUCT TIME RELEASE

PHONE..: 503-843-4442 FAX: 503-843-3408

ACTUAL SATISFACTION FACILITY....: SHE

ACTUAL SATISFACTION KEYED BY....: EDR

DAYS REMAINING..................: 124

FINAL PUBLIC LAW DAYS...........: 0

S0039 ALL CURRENT COMPS ARE SATISFIED

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