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John F. Springer
From The Martial Arts Encyclopedia
John F. Springer is a practitioner of Hung Gar and Southern Praying Mantis kung-fu styles, and a former member of Bullshido.net.
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Background/History
Springer claimed to be 51 on July 11, 2007, which would put the year of his birth around 1956.
Controversies on Bullshido.net
John F. Springer was known for an abrasive, flamboyant style of posting on the Bullshido.net website.
In one thread, Springer asserted that if he and Royce Gracie got into a fight, Gracie would end up in the hospital. Notably, in a fight he had with a blue-belt level fighter, Springer was mounted and punched in the head several times.
In another thread (which precipitated his leaving the Bullshido website), Springer was found to be teaching grappling and groundfighting to students even though he did not have any established rank in these areas; Springer only held verifiable rank in Chinese stand-up styles.
However, even this is questionable. JFS was never able to provide any real evidence of having trained for a significant period of time with any notable teachers. He beat around the bush when questioned, and none of the videos of him in action indicate that he was a highly trained CMA practicioner.Nor did he demonstrate any forms. Since leaving Bullshido, JFS has angered senior members of the Southern Praying Mantis Community and has been challenged on more than one occasion.
A cursory phone investigation by Bullshido member Scrapper did verify that many of the teachers Springer had mentioned when questioned about his training (at least the more recent ones) confirmed that Springer had trained with them. Most of those individuals affirmed that John was a competent fighter, but almost all had personal issues with him.
This was not an in-depth investigation at the time, so actual time-frames of said training remains unverified. It was concluded that Springer was certainly a recognized, if controversial, individual in the circles he claimed.
Controversies Elsewhere
Before a planned fight between a current and former Bullshido member, Springer interfered by grabbing the Bullshido member by the throat in response to verbal taunting. What was supposed to be a fight between "Annatrocity and Omar" ended up being a fight between " Osiris and John F. Springer
Sources
Links
Relevant discussion threads on the forum, as described by Chinese Martial Arts Forum Moderator It Is Fake?
JFS appeared here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26350
Which eventually morphed into this: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27016
Everything was cool to a certain extent. He was loved and hated thus, a big Mega TD was planned.
Everything was cool here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30339
This joke thread: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30928
Which led to this: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31136
Then this: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31165
Then this:
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=31256
Then he left, with some other posters, to visit another former posters new website.
Fast forward a year and add Style subforums which equal drama.
The subforums led to this: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51271
Which devolved into the creation of a true anti-Bullshido website.
Enter Phrost's joke video: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=51594
Phrost's Joke video 2 really got the drama going: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55567
This led to a Challenge fight between AnnaT and Omar: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=55639
Which finally ended here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=57256
Which ran off into a ton of threads everywhere.
Both of the above threads have the video and most of the story. The first is the direct runoff from Joke video 2.
The second I chose because it details the situation from a 3rd party observer.
